Breville Barista Express Review: Is the BES870XL Worth It?
Breville Barista Express review using CNET and TechGearLab measurements, the BES870 manual and owner reports: grinder fixes, upkeep, who should skip it.
The short answer
The Barista Express is the pick if you want a grinder and an espresso machine in one box, with two labs rating it top of their tests, as long as you accept a stepped grinder, a learning curve and a big footprint.
Strengths
- Named best espresso machine overall by CNET, and ranked #1 of 11 at 77/100 by TechGearLab
- Close extraction numbers from two labs: 19% yield (TechGearLab; 19.4% in its text) and 18.6% (CNET)
- Ample customization, smart dosing, a built-in burr grinder and a metal dose trimmer and tamper, per CNET
- Strong milk steaming: TechGearLab scores it 9.1 of 10; CNET says the wand makes thick foam
Weaknesses
- Learning curve, a 35-minute setup and a 4 min 27 s cappuccino, per TechGearLab
- Bulky, per CNET
- Stepped 40 mm grinder that Coffee Chronicler says may not grind as well as a flat-burr grinder and drops grounds in the tray
- No low-water warning, and it picks up fingerprints, per Tom's Guide
- Owners report losing fine grind range over time (CoffeeForums thread); no failure-rate data exists
This Breville Barista Express review comes down to one answer: it is the machine to get if you want a grinder built in. CNET names it the best espresso machine overall, and TechGearLab scores it 77 of 100, ranked #1 of 11. The tradeoffs are a stepped grinder that some owners say loses its fine range, a real learning curve, and a big footprint.
I didn’t use this machine. I read Breville’s BES870 manual, two lab reviews with measurements, three long-form reviews and an owner thread about the grinder, then pulled out what they agree on and where they don’t. It sits in our best espresso machines ranking as the built-in-grinder pick.
What did CNET and TechGearLab measure on the BES870XL?
Two labs published extraction numbers for the BES870XL, and they land within half a point of each other. Most other reviews give impressions only.
TechGearLab measured a 19% extraction yield (19.4% in the review text) from a 19 g dose that produced a 30 g shot in 29 seconds. It timed a cappuccino at 4 minutes 27 seconds and setup at 35 minutes. Its sub-scores are 8.0 for espresso quality, 7.0 for ease of use, 6.2 for ease of cleaning, 9.1 for milk steaming and 8.0 for customization.
CNET measured total dissolved solids as high as 12.4% and an extraction of 18.6%, using Costco Kirkland Colombian beans. It picked the Barista Express after pulling shots from more than 20 models. The two yields sit within half a point of each other, and both fall inside the 18-22% range that CNET and TechGearLab each cite as ideal for espresso. TechGearLab doesn’t name its beans, so the two tests aren’t like for like.
The manual and TechGearLab measure shots differently. Breville’s manual guides you by volume, about 1 oz for a single and 2 oz for a double. TechGearLab worked by weight (19 g in, 30 g out), so its numbers won’t map directly onto the manual’s. Its 19 g dose is also above the 15-18 g the manual says the 2-cup basket is designed for.
Where evidence is thin: neither lab published noise, energy use or brew-temperature stability readings. I found no source with a decibel figure or a temperature trace for this machine. Coffee Chronicler calls it “pretty loud,” with a rattling sound, but gives no number.
Breville Barista Express specs compared with two cheaper rivals
Sources disagree on several basic specs, so the table shows each value with its source rather than picking one. Breville’s BES870 manual is the manufacturer spec. Tom’s Guide’s spec box lists “15 PSI” and 1.75 L; the manual says 15 bar and 2 L, so I’ve left those out. CNET lists 18 grind settings, but the manual’s grinder-cleaning steps run from setting 1 (finest) to 16 (coarsest), as TechGearLab also lists.
| Spec | Breville Barista Express (BES870XL) | Breville Bambino Plus | CasaBrews CM5418 | Source / label |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Water tank | 67 fl oz / 2 L (manufacturer spec); 66 oz (TechGearLab); 67.6 fl oz (CNET) | 64 fl oz | 34 fl oz | BES870 manual; TechGearLab; CNET for rivals |
| Dimensions | 13 x 15 x 16 in W x D x H (CNET); 31.8 x 31.5 x 39.9 cm (TechGearLab measurement); 14.9 x 12.9 x 16.1 in (Tom’s Guide) | 7.5 x 13.5 x 12 in | 5.47 x 12.28 x 11.97 in | CNET; TechGearLab; Tom’s Guide; CNET for rivals |
| Weight | 24.03 lb | 10.91 lb | 8 lb in CNET’s comparison table; 2.1 lb in its spec box | CNET |
| Built-in grinder | Yes, conical burr; 16 settings (manufacturer spec, BES870 manual; TechGearLab agrees); CNET says 18 | No | No | BES870 manual; TechGearLab; CNET for rivals |
| Pump pressure | 15 bar | 9 bar extraction pressure | 20 bar | Manufacturer spec (BES870 manual); CNET for rivals |
| Portafilter | 54 mm | 54 mm | 51 mm | Manufacturer spec (BES870 manual); TechGearLab for rivals |
| Heating | Thermocoil (manufacturer spec, BES870 manual); PID per TechGearLab | ThermoJet with PID (CNET) | PID per TechGearLab | BES870 manual; TechGearLab; CNET |
| Bean hopper | 1/2 lb | Not applicable | Not applicable | Manufacturer spec (BES870 manual) |
| Cup clearance | 10.2 cm | 12.7 cm | 9.53 cm | TechGearLab measurement |
For each rival in depth, see the Bambino Plus review, the CasaBrews CM5418 review and the De’Longhi Stilosa review. In its Bambino Plus pick, CNET says the machine pulled quality shots on par with the Barista Express.
Barista Express grinder problems: what owners report and the fixes
The grinder is the part owners write about most. There is no failure-rate data for it anywhere I looked, only owner reports, so treat what follows as a known pattern, not a measured rate.
Grind won’t go fine enough
In a 2018 CoffeeForums thread, an owner who had a used Barista Express for about a year reports needing ever-finer settings over a month or two, until shots were badly underextracted even at the finest setting. Breville support suggested filtered water and fresh beans, and cleaning the burrs per the manual didn’t help. A reply from a three-year owner says research online showed it is “a common problem.” That is one thread, not a survey.
Fix 1: move the upper burr
Breville’s BES870 manual says the adjustable upper burr extends the grind range, and to move it one number at a time. Seattle Coffee Gear’s how-to describes the steps: remove the hopper, lift the burr out by its wire handle, turn the top ring to a new number, and lock it back in. It warns this may take significant force because of oil build-up.
Fix 2: clean the burrs
The manual says grinder cleaning removes oil build-up from the burrs, which are removable. In the CoffeeForums case, cleaning alone didn’t restore the fine range.
Fix 3: the shim mod, and the warranty
The same CoffeeForums reply describes swapping the stock washer for a thicker shim, adjusted so the burrs don’t touch, and notes it “will void Breville’s warranty.” That is a last resort, not a first step.
Other grinder faults in the manual
The manual’s troubleshooting table covers the rest:
- No grounds come out: empty hopper, blocked chute or moisture; dry the burrs, a hair dryer is fine.
- Loud grinding noise: a foreign object in the burrs.
- FILTER SIZE lights flashing: the hopper isn’t locked in.
The grinder’s built-in limits
Coffee Chronicler describes 40 mm burrs (conical, per the manual) with stepped, not stepless, adjustment. It says they may not grind as well as a flat-burr grinder, notes that many well-known espresso grinders are stepless, and says grounds fall into the drip tray.
How hard is the Barista Express to learn?
Expect practice before shots come out right. Breville’s manual gives a starting point: grind size 5 (smaller is finer), GRIND AMOUNT at 3 o’clock, and a tamp of about 30-40 lb. Flow should begin after 4-7 seconds of pre-infusion. Under 3 seconds means under-extracted; no flow after 8 seconds means over-extracted.
The manual’s extraction guide puts a correct shot at 25-35 seconds. The pressure gauge has pre-infusion, ideal and under/over-extracted zones to help you read each shot. Brew temperature adjusts ±4°F from the default in 2°F steps, per the manual; TechGearLab lists the range as 196-204°F.
TechGearLab says dialing in takes trial and error, and CNET says the control panel may be a little intimidating at first. Brewing With Dani says shots are prone to channeling from small puck flaws, and the one-hole steam tip is slow, up to about a minute.
The milk side is a strength. CNET says the wand makes thick foam, and TechGearLab scores milk steaming 9.1 of 10.
The machine has a 15-bar pump; for what that number means, see espresso bar pressure explained. It ships with four baskets, single-wall and dual-wall in 1-cup and 2-cup sizes; see pressurized vs non-pressurized baskets.
What the CLEAN/DESCALE light means, and other upkeep
The CLEAN/DESCALE light means two different jobs. Per the manual, a flashing light calls for a back-flushing cleaning cycle with the cleaning disc and one tablet, about 5 minutes. A solid light means it’s time to descale, which TechGearLab says takes 9+ minutes and needs you present. The steps are in our Barista Express descaling guide, and the general method is in how to descale an espresso machine.
The manual also says to replace the water filter every 2 months and clean the burrs to remove oil. If the machine stops mid-use, the thermal cut-out has tripped from pump or grinder overheating; let it cool 30-60 minutes. It heats with a thermocoil rather than a boiler; single vs double boiler machines explains the difference.
Is the Barista Express worth it?
The Barista Express is worth it if you want a grinder and a machine in one box and a non-pressurized basket to learn on. Two labs rate it at or near the top. If you already own a grinder or want to spend less, a cheaper machine makes more sense.
- Buy it if you want an all-in-one setup that makes good milk drinks and lets you adjust grind, dose and temperature.
- Skip it if you already own a good grinder. The Bambino Plus has no grinder to pay for.
- Skip it if you want stepless or flat-burr grinding. Coffee Chronicler says many Barista Express owners eventually want to upgrade, and the built-in grinder then becomes dead weight.
For the current price, see the price watch below.
Check price at AmazonWho should consider something else
- You have a grinder: the Breville Bambino Plus, which CNET says pulled shots on par with the Barista Express.
- You want the cheapest entry: the CasaBrews CM5418, a much smaller and lighter machine per CNET’s specs.
- You want a basic manual machine: the De’Longhi Stilosa.
- You want the full field: our best espresso machines ranking.
More on the Barista Express and other espresso machines
- Best espresso machines, ranked by weight of evidence
- How to descale the Breville Barista Express
- Pressurized vs non-pressurized baskets
- Breville Bambino Plus review
- How we research
Frequently asked questions
Why won't my Barista Express grind fine enough?
Usually the upper burr needs adjusting. Breville's BES870 manual says the adjustable upper burr extends the grind range and should be moved one number at a time. The manual also says to clean the burrs to remove oil build-up. A CoffeeForums owner reply describes a thicker shim under the burr as a further fix, but warns it voids Breville's warranty.
What does the flashing CLEAN/DESCALE light mean on the Barista Express?
A flashing light means the machine wants a cleaning cycle, not a descale. Per Breville's BES870 manual, flashing calls for a back-flushing cycle with the cleaning disc and one tablet, which takes about 5 minutes. A solid light is the separate signal that the machine needs descaling. The two jobs use different steps and products.
How many grind settings does the Breville Barista Express have?
16, per Breville's BES870 manual, whose grinder-cleaning steps call setting 1 the finest and 16 the coarsest. TechGearLab also lists 16; CNET's spec box says 18, which doesn't match the manual. The manual says to start at setting 5, and the adjustable upper burr shifts the whole range, so the usable span depends on how it is set.
Is the Breville Barista Express good for beginners?
Yes, if you are willing to practice. Coffee Chronicler says it suits beginners who want an all-in-one machine. CNET warns the control panel may be a little intimidating at first, and TechGearLab says dialing in takes trial and error. Brewing With Dani adds that its pressure makes shots prone to channeling, so technique matters.
How long does the Barista Express take to make a cappuccino?
About four and a half minutes. TechGearLab timed 4 minutes 27 seconds for a cappuccino, among the slower machines it timed, and says the slow steam wand means the shot sits while you steam milk. Tom's Guide says the machine itself needs only a minute or two to warm up, and Brewing With Dani says steaming can take up to about a minute.
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Sources
- breville.com/content/dam/breville/us/assets/miscellaneous/instruction-manual/espresso/BES870-instruction-manual.pdf
- techgearlab.com/reviews/kitchen/espresso-machine/breville-barista-express
- cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-household/best-espresso-machine
- coffeechronicler.com/breville-barista-express-review
- tomsguide.com/reviews/breville-barista-express-espresso-machine
- brewingwithdani.com/blog/a-review-of-the-sage/breville-barista-express-entry-level-home-espresso-machine
- coffeeforums.com/threads/help-please-breville-barista-express-grinder-problems-suddenly.18107
- seattlecoffeegear.com/blogs/scg-blog/adjusting-the-top-burr-on-the-breville-barista-express